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Doing the Lambeth Walk. - Wemyss's Appalling Hobby:
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Doing the Lambeth Walk.
There is still very little I care to say about the current national apostasy.

Yet I will say this.  When I survey the comment, demeanour, attitude, and argument directed at the bishops of the Southern Cone by the ecclesiastical Left, I can only say, I have never seen so much naked racism in my life.
 

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velvet_tipping From: velvet_tipping Date: July 23rd, 2008 01:50 pm (UTC) (Link)
the world will not end because of this, i promise.
blamebrampton From: blamebrampton Date: July 23rd, 2008 01:58 pm (UTC) (Link)
To be fair, they're not alone. "American" can be used just as pejoratively.
fpb From: fpb Date: August 7th, 2008 08:22 pm (UTC) (Link)
Why not join the older Anglican church? You know, the one that was the national church from 597 to 1558, and whose members include Shakespeare, Dryden, Pope, Newman, Elgar, Pugin, and Chesterton? We know you're not a man to fall for rushed innovations or recent entities, and, frankly, this body is but of yesterday.
wemyss From: wemyss Date: August 8th, 2008 01:54 pm (UTC) (Link)

Yesterday?

Imagine what our Jewish friends say of both our communions.

That irrelevance aside, I can only say that I - unlike, I admit, the Archdruid Rowan, much of the Bench of Bps, and quite a lot of the odds and sods who packed Synod - am impelled by conscience and right reason to believe in the traditional and orthodox - i.e., late abandoned - tenets of the church of Donne, Andrewes, Hooker, Ken, and Laud, and my reason does not permit that I accept, as your communion's discipline and principles would require me in intellectual honesty to accept if I joined it, many of the claims made by and for the Roman See as integral to the Roman communion.

As to whether the Roman church or the C of E can either of them claim to represent the eldest Christian tradition in these isles, antedating the Synod of Whitby, is an open question.
fpb From: fpb Date: August 8th, 2008 02:10 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Yesterday?

Pope Gregory I the Great is for all practical purposes the founder of the mediaeval and modern papacy. In particular, he established, in fact though not in name, the Pope's rule over the duchy of Rome and, in both fact and name, his independence from the Roman Emperor. And who was it who sent Augustine to Kent, who was credited for centuries with the Christianization of England, and whose first biography was written by grateful English monks? Oh, and one century and a half before that, when the bishops of Britain tried to demote and defrock Patrick of Ireland, it was Pope Leo I the Great who probauit him, as I have demonstrated in the Patrician chapters of my History of Britain 407-597. The succession of Bishop of Rome from Bishop of Rome is proved right from their beginning, and their role as ultimate court of appeal in the universal Church is probable from the second century, and certain from the third.
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