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Never forget: the BNP are fascist twats. - Wemyss's Appalling Hobby:
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Never forget: the BNP are fascist twats.


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blamebrampton From: blamebrampton Date: May 16th, 2009 06:28 pm (UTC) (Link)
That is a brilliant ad.

And Britain being all white in 1914 is going to come as a dreadful shock to a great many people. Were the BNP never taught about Mary Seacome (sp?) at school?
wemyss From: wemyss Date: May 16th, 2009 06:39 pm (UTC) (Link)

The various Tory organisations are making good adverts these days.

As for yr qy, the BNP were never taught, full stop.
blamebrampton From: blamebrampton Date: May 17th, 2009 02:57 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: The various Tory organisations are making good adverts these days.

You make a good point. I once won a shouted argument with one of their supporters when I declared that I was far whiter than him and therefore, by his logic, superior and right. It was a shameful day in Brammers debating.
tree_and_leaf From: tree_and_leaf Date: May 16th, 2009 07:40 pm (UTC) (Link)
Mary Seacole. Great woman. (Mind you, I was never taught about her at school).
wemyss From: wemyss Date: May 16th, 2009 10:32 pm (UTC) (Link)

Tsk, tsk.

And indeed she was.
tree_and_leaf From: tree_and_leaf Date: May 16th, 2009 10:38 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Tsk, tsk.

Yes, I know.

We didn't do Florence Nightingale, either; our history curriculum was very patchy (and stronger on Germany in the thirties than anything else....) I seem to recall hearing about M.S. at Guides, or possibly my mother told me about her.
blamebrampton From: blamebrampton Date: May 17th, 2009 02:56 am (UTC) (Link)
She was great, and, as you can clearly see, the bit I was taught about her was too long ago.

We had her pop up twice, once as an example of how historians can distort history (alongside the idea of Nightingale's medical competence, which was up and down ...) and once for a quick look at some pages of her autobiography. Alas, that was a bit over 25 years ago, so I've mostly forgotten. I will have to hunt for a copy of said autobiography.
wemyss From: wemyss Date: May 17th, 2009 02:52 pm (UTC) (Link)

Twenty-five years ago?

I'm actually impressed that you were being taught this at all, much less that you've remembered any of it since, given that you were, if my maths are correct, four years in age....
blamebrampton From: blamebrampton Date: May 17th, 2009 02:55 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Twenty-five years ago?

You are too kind!
magic_at_mungos From: magic_at_mungos Date: May 17th, 2009 08:47 pm (UTC) (Link)
Neither was I and it sucked.
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wemyss From: wemyss Date: May 16th, 2009 10:32 pm (UTC) (Link)

Repentant sinners are always welcome.

Luke, 5.32.
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wemyss From: wemyss Date: May 17th, 2009 02:50 pm (UTC) (Link)

Of course.

'Must': a point lost on numerous MPs waving chequebooks about at the moment, I might add. Repentance requires restitution, contrition, and amendment of life - definitionally.
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fpb From: fpb Date: May 17th, 2009 12:21 pm (UTC) (Link)
The trouble is that so much of what is establishment - parties, corporate leadership, the press, the BBC, etc - is so discredited in the eyes of the ordinary Briton that many electors will not only disregard any warning, but actually take establishment hostility to the BNP to be a point in its favour. Nick Griffin is the smartest party leader in Britain (not that this is much of a compliment). He has taken a party that was nothing but a meeting place for thugs and psychopaths, imposed discipline on it, and taken it on a long march through the country's institutions, ward by ward, seat by seat. He has done so because he has spotted a gap in the market: no place for a genuine social conservatism with a small c, defence of the family and of traditional values, patriotism without qualifications, and respect for the actual working classes. He cannot, in my view, turn this insight into serious political success, because the human material he is working with is so abysmal. The essence of the BNP is still thuggish and immoral; their councillors, when they actually find themselves having to deal with administrative and political issues, are most often helpless and ignorant, and many of them have personal records that make them vulnerable to any investigation. (An amusing Freudian note: I had originally written that "The essence of the BBC is still thuggish and immoral" - and frankly, I suspect it would be true in both cases.) Just like Rupert Murdoch's Fox TV, they only provide a pre-packaged, plastic, brummagem imitation of real conservative or nationalistic politics, because its operators are incapable of anything better. But the instinct for patriotism and old-fashioned virtues is a beast that, when starved of its proper food, will feed on poisonous imitations. And Nick Griffin knows that.
wemyss From: wemyss Date: May 17th, 2009 02:54 pm (UTC) (Link)

Hmm.

Thus far, the polls suggest that the ordinary Briton is not so easily misled; the protest votes seem likely to go to the Greens and UKIP.
fpb From: fpb Date: May 17th, 2009 04:59 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Hmm.

That is exactly what I do not find comforting. UKIP and the Greens are classic protest vote parties, receptacles of occasional waves of anger which rarely manage to turn into solid occupation of political ground. I fear that Griffin, whether deliberately or not, is doing something a good deal more subtle and lasting; building up support on the ground, not going for the easily won and easily lost protest vote - did you notice that they do not seem to have much to say about parliamentary expenses? - and instead building up what marketing men call brand loyalty. That is why he seems to me both smart and very very dangerous.
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wemyss From: wemyss Date: May 17th, 2009 04:43 pm (UTC) (Link)

Well, it's been commonly said...

... That the BNP are simply Labour with racism.

This is inaccurate. Economically and what not, they are indeed a party of the Left. What is unfair is the formulation: they are, rather, Labour with overt racism. Because, I'm afraid, Labour have no better record than any other party in that regard.
fpb From: fpb Date: May 17th, 2009 04:56 pm (UTC) (Link)
Indeed. To try and clarify my views, I regard both Griffin and Rupert Murdoch as peddlers of inferior, adulterated and filthy versions of a food for which many people are starved. Nick Griffin has no more respect for his electors than Rupert Murdoch for his spectators.
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