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Oh, Americans? - Wemyss's Appalling Hobby:
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Oh, Americans?
About that general election....



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muuranker From: muuranker Date: November 9th, 2012 07:38 pm (UTC) (Link)
An awful lot of the world is still pink (or, at least, governed by someone who wears hats which are a nice shade of lilac).

I draw your readership's attention to the white paper on the Overseas Territories http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/about-us/what-we-do/overseas-territories/overseas-territories-white-paper/ - which reveals a surprisingly* light concern for their history

*for a given value of surprising. Historians and archaeologists probably will not be surprised.
wemyss From: wemyss Date: November 9th, 2012 07:47 pm (UTC) (Link)

Sadly, I am amongst the unsurprised.

And do you know, the US is actually eligible to join the Commonwealth?
muuranker From: muuranker Date: November 9th, 2012 08:17 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Sadly, I am amongst the unsurprised.

I'm not sad you are a historian, but yes, sad that the white paper does not recognise the shortcomings of the UK when it comes to heritage.

I hadn't thought through the US as a member of the commonwealth idea ... and think there is an alternative history novel - or at least a short story - to be written here. Because I am middle-aged, my history education was not cold war and nothing else, or WWII and nothing else, or 20th century and nothing else, but a sucession of Tudors-and-Stuarts, followed by two rowing A-level teachers, which meant I end up with a detailed knowledge of American History (independence to Cuban Crisis) and Medieval English, and absolutely no knowledge whatsoever of what happened after Queen Anne Died (the end point of history as far as O level and previous teaching was concerned.
So I am rather vague as to what the divergence point might have been (yes, the American History course did include WWII, but that part concentrated on the war in the Pacific, rather than the European theatre).
I am suspecting the US would have joined the commonwealth would have been in the immediate aftermath of WWII. Not sure how - ratifying a statute wouldn't have been an option? - and I also think it would have been a personal, as much as a political act.
wemyss From: wemyss Date: November 9th, 2012 09:44 pm (UTC) (Link)

Well, as matters stand currently...

... any nation whose territory, in whole or in part, was once a colony or possession of some sort is eligible (and others may apply as well on the basis of historic ties, or - as Japan has done - to be observers). Oddly, this means that the US, Israel, and Afghanistan - and, in my view, France - are all eligible....
tazlet From: tazlet Date: November 9th, 2012 07:50 pm (UTC) (Link)
You yawped, sir?



*What the butler said to the werewolf. (I realize it's obscure, but you never know.)
wemyss From: wemyss Date: November 9th, 2012 08:00 pm (UTC) (Link)

Funnily enough...

... old fans of Peter Simple in the Torygraph may recall that the earl of Mountwarlock's butler, Phantomsby, of the 'infectious smile', was 'one of the few practising werewolves left in the Midlands'.

ETA - I am of course a huge Tom Sharpe fan....

Edited at 2012-11-09 08:01 pm (UTC)
tazlet From: tazlet Date: November 9th, 2012 08:58 pm (UTC) (Link)
A different funny man (and I misquoted): http://classic.tcj.com/history/wilson-booth-rodriques/
wemyss From: wemyss Date: November 9th, 2012 09:38 pm (UTC) (Link)

Ah.

Quite. Not precisely a magazine I am likely to read, naturally (see icon)....
tazlet From: tazlet Date: November 9th, 2012 09:47 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Ah.

Oh! I never noticed that icon! (rolls eyes) Booth's usual venue was The New Yorker - I knew that cartoon from a collection of his work in the 80's.
wemyss From: wemyss Date: November 9th, 2012 09:50 pm (UTC) (Link)

I assure you...

... I wasn't suggesting anything dodgy on yr part.
eglantine_br From: eglantine_br Date: November 9th, 2012 08:34 pm (UTC) (Link)
A barbaric yawp?
wemyss From: wemyss Date: November 9th, 2012 09:37 pm (UTC) (Link)

No, no.

THAT wd be Tom Wolfe.
eglantine_br From: eglantine_br Date: November 9th, 2012 10:41 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: No, no.

And Whitman.
wemyss From: wemyss Date: November 10th, 2012 02:28 pm (UTC) (Link)

Always amusing, that:

... Walt trying so desperately hard to be butch.
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eglantine_br From: eglantine_br Date: November 10th, 2012 05:46 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Another good reason for the US to join the Commonwealth.

They did not teach grammar in the US for about 20 years. For a while they did not teach phonetics either. I got the phonetics, but not the grammar. I had to learn it by ear, and just by reading. It would have been so much better just to teach it. Bright kids in the US are pitifully served. Kids who are not as bright are in an even worse position.

I have no idea if the Commonwealth is a good thing or not. But I know that people make better writers when they know what a noun is!
wemyss From: wemyss Date: November 11th, 2012 04:11 pm (UTC) (Link)

Shocking, this thread.

Or, rather, the distressful information it contains.

Although it explains much....
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wemyss From: wemyss Date: November 12th, 2012 05:17 pm (UTC) (Link)

There is no such thing as 'off-topic' in any of my posts and the comments thereupon.

Of course, teaching varies even within Commonwealth countries: state schools amidst sink estates have vy different approaches, standards, and results to, say, one's old school. But at least lip service is paid to an ideal.

Edited at 2012-11-12 05:18 pm (UTC)
don_jam From: don_jam Date: November 11th, 2012 03:13 pm (UTC) (Link)

God Save the Queen (and Wemyss if he can manage it)

I think I may now love you just a little bit Wemyss.
wemyss From: wemyss Date: November 11th, 2012 04:10 pm (UTC) (Link)

How vy kind of you.

And more than I deserve, no doubt, from you and from Divine Providence.
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