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Text, transformations, characterisation, the personal, and the political: 3. - Wemyss's Appalling Hobby:
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Text, transformations, characterisation, the personal, and the political: 3.
I have no doubt that Albus Dumbledore, had he been a Muggle, should have been a Liberal, then an SDP member, then a Lib Dem. He had his Grindelwald moment, and then went back to schoolmastering.

Harry had his Grindelwald moment, and then remained at the sharp end.

There is no certain canon – there are persuasive deductions, but no declarations from on high – as to whether the Aurors are more like an Army, an intelligence agency, or the Old Bill. It really doesn’t matter to this particular point. Given the choice, in these circumstances, of deciding whether a senior officer of Aurors should be, in Muggle terms, a Tory or a Labour supporter, the better wager is the former. (If you are required to make him PM, rather than simply an MP, you really cannot make him a Lib Dem. There is simply no foreseeable future in which, after a General Election in the Muggle UK, the Lib Dems shall go home and prepare for a majority government.)

Yes, there are Brian Paddicks. Yes, particularly in the politicised Met consule Tony, and with ACPO succumbing, as public employees’ unions always do, to rent-seeking, there were Ian Blairs. But the odds are that a senior officer of the Forces, a spymaster, or a Chief Constable – and being head of the Aurors is congruent, surely, to one of those three things – shall be, on retirement and unmuzzled, a Conservative (or a Crossbench peer, although that means never being PM), and at any rate not a Lib Dem and not Labour. See also, Lord Dannatt, Lady Neville-Jones, Lady Manningham-Buller, Dame Stella Rimington, Lord Byng, Lord Trenchard…. In American terms, what was Wesley Clark’s one selling point as a Democratic candidate for his party’s presidential nomination? That he was one of vanishingly few senior officers not to be a Republican.

And so, in Bezique, I made Harry a Tory in the Muggle world; on other occasions, a Conservative local councillor when dealing with Muggle neighbours. I think this plausible. You may not. I should be delighted were others to remix these ideas and plausibly make him otherwise. And a criticism that, This is not convincing to me, and these are the reasons why, is perfectly valid and perfectly welcome.

A complaint, however, that this is Simply Impossible, Because Conservatives Are Vermin, is rather less suasive. (It is also the sort of thing that leads talented people, some of who are otherwise morally decent as well as talented – the two are not coterminous on a Venn diagram – to do such things as to criticise others’ celebrating the deaths of, oh, Pol Pot or Ceausescu or Saddam Hussein or UBL, and then to dance in the streets when Maggie died.)

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blamebrampton From: blamebrampton Date: August 21st, 2013 03:22 pm (UTC) (Link)
I am absolutely asleep and not quickly skimming with a view to rereading later when more awake. However, while I cannot see Harry as a NeoCon, I can absolutely see him as a classic Conservative who would maintain pensions for the aged and national health at the same time as being absolutely fine with work for the dole schemes and possibly even national service. Someone who would both for protecting the rights of farmers to tell people to frack off and for making contraception free at clinics in a bid to lower the incidence of teen pregnancy.

There is an enormous tradition of socially aware conservatism that I can easily see Harry ascribing to. And it is madness to suggest it could be an issue of class as I have seen on occasion: the vast majority of Conservatives I know who did not go to a small set of schools are aspirational working and lower middle class. Their experience wholly speaks to Harry's, though I cannot see him following some of the more vigorously ideological who believe 'I had to work my way up with no help, and so should you!' (A statement that is never, ever true.)

Personally, were he to vote, I see him changing his vote not infrequently in response to the changing needs of the nation and his changing desires to strangle certain party leaders.
wemyss From: wemyss Date: August 21st, 2013 03:55 pm (UTC) (Link)

Oh, quite.

Absolutely.

Which is pretty much how I wrote him.
pathology_doc From: pathology_doc Date: August 21st, 2013 06:36 pm (UTC) (Link)
The trouble is that, at least on LJ, certain persons (particularly those with starred and striped blinkers thanks to their geographic location) persist in the identification and conflation of everything that calls itself Conservative with reactionary morons in the Todd Akin mould, or with images of Maggie Thatcher down on all fours, rabidly ripping the throats out of Argentinian babies or what-have-you.

And Harry definitely isn't that, which is possibly why their sickeningly blinkered minds go into hatred overdrive whenever it's suggested that maybe, just maybe, he ticks the Tory box whenever there's a Muggle election.
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