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Wizarding Pubs - Wemyss's Appalling Hobby:
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Wizarding Pubs

Wizarding pubs: a preliminary list of names.  Please add yr suggestions.

Crossed Wands

Three Hags Hunting

Barley Garb

Garb (Ogdens’s tied houses: cf Wheatsheaf)

Firkin

Sixteen Tuns

Hogs Head

Hop Wand

Magic Pottle

Leaky Cauldron

Green Dragon / Black Dragon

Griffin

White Boar

Blue Pixy

Three Robes

Three Caps

Royal Holly

Wand and Crown

Sorcerer’s Head

Black Arms

Potter Arms

Longbottom Arms

Weasley Arms

Turpin Arms

Corner Arms

Bulstrode Arms

Diggory Arms

Founders’s Arms (and variants for Hufflepuff, Ravenclaw, and Gryffindor.  There are no Wizarding public houses that commemorate Salazar Slytherin)

Hero of Wessex

Dumbledore Arms

Withers Arms

Lord Stod Withers

Infanta de Castille

Bacchanals

Bridge Embattled

Graphorn Mouth

Cockatrice and Graphorn

Graphorn

Merlin’s Beard

Spell and Anchor

God Encompasseth

Sorcerer’s Cap

Bicorn and Flag

Bicorn and Compasses

Quidditchers (’s Arms)

Crup and Snidget

Crup and Kneazle

Great Plough

Charles’s Wain

Waggon and Thestrals

Waggon and Aethonons

Grim / Jarvey and Grims / Imp and Grims / Knarl and Grims

Goat and Bezoar

Erumpent and Castle

Grim and Jobberknoll

Phoenix Feathers

Owl and Crown

Diricawl with Two Necks

Snitch in Hand

Moke Inn

Mooncalf

Porlock (/ and Flag)

Raven and Gate

Bell, Book and Candle

Halt (at halts on the Wizarding rail lines, cf those on the route of the Hogwarts Express)

Jolly Aurors

Goblin

Wild Man

Green Giant

John Buttercorn

Moon Eclipsed

Moon and Werewolf

Black Dog

Red Hart

(Gold) Lion

Hippogriff and Harrow

(Old) Peel Tower

(Old) Belltower

Black Sheep

Wand and Treaty

Bow and Truckle

Selkie Inn

Ring and Selkie

Agrippa (’s Arms / Head)

Umfraville Arms

Cliodna

Three Broomsticks

Wand and Bone (nr St Mungo’s)

Wright’s Arms

Merman and Haddock

Varney Arms

Mother Hubbard

Blue Boggart

Bugbear (/ Bugbear and Ragged Wand)

Goat and Flag

Golden Snidget

Grim and Banshee

Headless Mitre

Jarvey’s Rest

Moonraker Inn

Owl and Kneazle

Shrake Inn

Three Men in a Boat

Tun and Firkin (a tied house, Hog’s Head plc, Hogsmeade)

Wand and Cauldron

White Horse

Moon Under Water

Bouncing Blancmange

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dolorous_ett From: dolorous_ett Date: June 11th, 2006 02:06 pm (UTC) (Link)
My word, that's thorough. How on earth are you going to squeeze all of these in?

The only thing that seems lacking in your remarkably extensive list is something chromium and trendy with cocktails and loud, modern music - perhaps with a risque Muggle twist - Walkman's, perhaps, or MP3?
dolorous_ett From: dolorous_ett Date: June 11th, 2006 02:13 pm (UTC) (Link)
Sorry - I have no manners - should have also said that they all seem very authetic, and that I was particularly charmed by the notion of the Porlock and Flag.
wemyss From: wemyss Date: June 11th, 2006 04:00 pm (UTC) (Link)

Thanks.

The fantastic beasts do make things easy, don't they.
wemyss From: wemyss Date: June 11th, 2006 03:54 pm (UTC) (Link)

Thank you.

I wonder, though, if even the new generation want that sort of local. Still, it does want considering.
dolorous_ett From: dolorous_ett Date: June 11th, 2006 04:42 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Thank you.

In your universe, I suppose they might not... I must be careful to try not to impose my very different world view on yours!
wemyss From: wemyss Date: June 11th, 2006 04:45 pm (UTC) (Link)

Not at all.

The Rocking Eagle knows it at least as well as I do, and agrees with you (see below). I'll simply have to bone up on Those Sort of Pubs. (One thing about it, in the Wizarding World there will at least be no council-estate-pubs, not that many aren't warm and cheery within, but the architecture is always so utterly ghastly, poor devils.)
tree_and_leaf From: tree_and_leaf Date: June 11th, 2006 09:35 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Not at all.

If you do consider ghastly trendy bars, then I would suggest that they might serve vile concoctions which are implausible shades of green or red and are called things like 'amortentia' or 'Dementor's Kiss' (the latter would be black, of course, and be something like 60 % proof, like a Pangalactic Gargleblaster, only minus the charm).
wemyss From: wemyss Date: June 11th, 2006 09:40 pm (UTC) (Link)

Oh, I do like that.

In a sick, twisted, Grytpype sort of way.
executrix From: executrix Date: June 11th, 2006 02:36 pm (UTC) (Link)
The Screwt and Compasses
I Am the Only Running Auror
The Silent House Elf
The Anodyne Charm
wemyss From: wemyss Date: June 11th, 2006 03:55 pm (UTC) (Link)

You've been at the Grimes again, haven't you.

Thanks.
sollersuk From: sollersuk Date: June 11th, 2006 03:16 pm (UTC) (Link)
Leave out "Moon Under Water" unless it really is a Wetherspoons pub - I know several of them. They have the advantage of no piped music, but some have (silent) television screens which I think is a bad move.

Also the country, and especially London, is far too full of real "X and Firkin" pubs for it to sound in the least bit entertaining.

Also, too many Lions of sundry colours, and White Boars, especially in areas with a loyalty to Richard III, for them to seem anything but normal, straightforward Muggle.
wemyss From: wemyss Date: June 11th, 2006 03:59 pm (UTC) (Link)

Well, yes, but.

Thank you. I wanted to know if the pedestrian familiarity of Mugglish names overlapping with Wizarding ones worked or not; your vote has been counted, and matters greatly.

As to the Moon Under Water, my thinking was similar to why I proposed the Bridge Embattled and the Bacchanals, that this was the original from whence Orwell derived his archetype that has since been commercialised. But perhaps that wd indeed require too much exposition.
sollersuk From: sollersuk Date: June 11th, 2006 04:16 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Well, yes, but.

I think it probably would; I've drunk in at least three Wetherspoon "Moon Under Water" pubs, and suspect that so many people will have done so that their immediate reaction would be "Wetherspoons is run by wizards, then?" which would be fun or "So wizards go to Wetherspoons pubs?" which wouldn't.
wemyss From: wemyss Date: June 11th, 2006 04:22 pm (UTC) (Link)

Oh, dear.

I imagine you're quite right.

Sigh. I was so looking forward to making Orwell out to be a Wizard. Ah, well.

Thank God for free houses, at least, I never so much as see a tied house or some PubCo abomination in the noiseless tenor of my daily round.
tree_and_leaf From: tree_and_leaf Date: June 11th, 2006 10:02 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Well, yes, but.

Actually, I like the inclusion of some mugglish names - after all, they do have lions as heraldic animals (and I'd be astonished if they didn't have boars, given the significance of the boar in Celtic and Germanic folklore). Not having 'Red Lions' and the like would suggest that the sole criterion for the name was being 'non-Muggle' - and a degree of obsession with and knowledge of Muggles that I don't think the wizarding world possesses. (Does that make any sense?)

The Dragon and Foeglass? (Not very good with names...)
wemyss From: wemyss Date: June 12th, 2006 09:29 pm (UTC) (Link)

Sense? Yes, indeed.

Thank you. And I like yr suggestion, also.
eagles_rock From: eagles_rock Date: June 11th, 2006 03:21 pm (UTC) (Link)
Draco's not best pleased when Hog's Head plc take over a run-down pub near Godric's Hollow; they name it the Ferret&Firkin just for him. Bad jokes abound.

There are some wondrous Muggle pub names; there's a 'Land of Liberty, Peace, Hope and Bananas' (OK, not the bananas) round here from Chartist times; not to mention the odd 'The Case is Altered', which defeats me for a wizarding equivalent, especially if you follow the 'Second World War, Italian brothel' school of naming. (just hoping to spur some thoughts on your part, Wemyss, rather than offer solid suggestions.. :-))

(I also think Ms. Ett is responsible for a brilliant restaurant name - The House of the Flying Artichoke, or just 'The Flying Artichoke'; a fine establishment serving good food; solid English of the highest quality.)
wemyss From: wemyss Date: June 11th, 2006 04:03 pm (UTC) (Link)

Oh, those are brill, thank you.

I couldn't really come up with Wizarding equivalents of the Four Alls, the Honest Lawyer, and the Case is Altered thus far, but I'm still beavering away.

Of course, there IS the incident when the Ministry got hold of the wrong end of the stick and sent Draco on a useless assignment to investigate reports of a dragon in Wantley, for which, in the end, his report could say only that they'd some excellent cask ales.
eagles_rock From: eagles_rock Date: June 11th, 2006 04:39 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Oh, those are brill, thank you.

'The Flagon with the Dragon' then? Sister pub to 'The Brew that is True'?

I'd agree that there's a need for 'trendy wine bars' and also grungy, rock-bands-on-a-Friday-night pubs (think teenage!Snape with Pink Floyd t-shirt) called 'The Pus Also Rises' or somesuch. My imagination has departed.
wemyss From: wemyss Date: June 11th, 2006 04:40 pm (UTC) (Link)

Oh, God.

You're too dangerous.
themolesmother From: themolesmother Date: June 11th, 2006 04:36 pm (UTC) (Link)
(I also think Ms. Ett is responsible for a brilliant restaurant name - The House of the Flying Artichoke, or just 'The Flying Artichoke'; a fine establishment serving good food; solid English of the highest quality.)

Alternatively, in deference to Ms Etts Chinese connections "The House of the Flying Artichoke" could be a Chinese restaurants in a fairly raffish part of Wizarding London where people queue up to eat dim sum and be insulted by the incredibly rude waiting staff.

MM
wemyss From: wemyss Date: June 11th, 2006 04:42 pm (UTC) (Link)

Remus will be there.

A werewolf with a Chinese menu in his hand. As he points out, 'The nice thing about Chinese restaurants is the chopsticks. No one hands you silver cutlery in a Chinese restaurant.'
eagles_rock From: eagles_rock Date: June 11th, 2006 04:44 pm (UTC) (Link)
Of course, 'The House of the Flying Artichoke' is exactly that, and could be nothing else. I am not being sarcastic; it's just right in so many ways. Such a low-watt bulb today.
wemyss From: wemyss Date: June 11th, 2006 04:45 pm (UTC) (Link)

Dim sum bulb?

Sorry.
dolorous_ett From: dolorous_ett Date: June 11th, 2006 04:44 pm (UTC) (Link)

*mucks about with other people's universes again*

Alternatively, in deference to Ms Etts Chinese connections "The House of the Flying Artichoke" could be a Chinese restaurants in a fairly raffish part of Wizarding London where people queue up to eat dim sum and be insulted by the incredibly rude waiting staff.

Is that the sort of teahouse with two floors which a hero should never visit unless fully prepared for a splendid and elaborate gongfu fight?

Sorry - I'll get my coat...
wemyss From: wemyss Date: June 11th, 2006 04:46 pm (UTC) (Link)

Walking through the streets of Soho in the rain....

No, just a werewolf hangout.
jadzia7667 From: jadzia7667 Date: June 12th, 2006 01:38 am (UTC) (Link)
The Red Lion, The Blue Badger, The Purple Pixie...that could be a slash bar. *g*
wemyss From: wemyss Date: June 12th, 2006 09:28 pm (UTC) (Link)

Indeed, yes.

Thank you. I knew I'd forgotten badgers.
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